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norman222
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YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« on: June 21, 2011, 02:07:43 AM »

Hey guys, today i will be taking YoYoJoker's first release, the Double Joker, out for a review, having played with it for about 2 weeks, I guess it was time to give my verdict. First things first, this is NOT a new yoyo, it was released last May. I know this is a veryyyy late review, but better late than never Smiley

If you did not know, YoYoJoker is definitely not a new company. It is just not that popular compared to other japanese brands such as YYR and TP but YYJoker will definitely be up there with the big brands if given time. Established in early 2010 by 4-time world champion and former YYJam team member Daisuke Shimada. YYJoker debuted the Double joker, when the Double Joker hit the market, everyone was amazed by its simple yet elegant shape and gold leaf affixed side caps, but all of this came with a price, although not that costly as a YYR, it was still a good $20-$25 more than an average yoyo.



Specs
Weight (g)         63.3
Diameter (mm)    53.60
Width (mm)       40.04
Bearing:              KonKave Bearing
Bearing Size:       Size C (Large)
Response       YoYoJoker Wide Type 50

Upon opening the package, i was greeted with YYJoker standard packaging--- an awkward screw like case with a piece of black sponge at the bottom. When I unscrewed the box, i was staring eye to eye with the purple Double Joker which was sitting snugly , just fitting into its home.


Galactic Goose, Double joker, Gnarhal

WoW. The purple on this yoyo is amazing!! It's just about it the middle of a purple messiah and a purple positron. But actually, this was not what the picture in the website, the one in the store showed about the same shade of purple but it was beadblasted (which very much resembled a BBed Messiah),the one i received was ano'ed.Heck, it still looked amazing!
The Double Joker has a unique shape. At first glance, one may mistake it for a YYR. But upon closer inspection, you can see that it is slightly bent inwards giving the catch zone a slightly concave shape and a super low wall. The Double joker has a gold affixed plastic side cap which definitely is from his roots in YYJam. To me, this is what makes the yoyo special and different from others.

The joker comes equiped with a slightly lubed Dif-e-Yo KonKave bearing, i gave it a quick wash and it was ready to roll!

This is quite a normal sized yoyo at 53mm but is a generally light throw coming in at 63g, but is it light on a throw.....the answer is NO. but this yoyo is definitely not dead weight. it plays like a 65g yoyo. THis yoyo is SOLID. It has a very special but yet familiar feel only what i can describe as "As solid as a Gnarwhal;As fast as a Sleipnir" actually, it does not have a 'need to play fast' feelin'. Instead, it can just play at normal speed but if you want it to speed up, your wish is its command, it can handle almost anything you throw at it.If you like horinzontal play, you will be amazed by how good the Double Joker can handle it. Just by looking at its shape, you can almost tell that horinzotals will not be a problem.

One downside is that the Double Joker DOES vibe, but it is only minimal, slightly less than CLYW vibe. In still feels dead smooth despite the hair of vibe, but i do like just a little tiny bit of vibe to tell me if the yoyo is still spinning, so this is not a big problem for me Afro
On a bad throw, this beast is very forgiving.It corrects the wobble within a matter of seconds

The response was joker pads(type 50) right out of the box, it was amazing, tight binds while still retaining unresponsive play, i could even perform a Takahiro Lizuka bind with ease. But after about 3 days of play, things took a turn...... the binds became slippy but not that slippy, it could still bind but not as tight as when it came straight out of the box.
Although i am not a fan of KK bearings, i would say not putting one into this would be a crime as it makes the yoyo almost dead smooth despite the hair of vibe. Despite the recent dispute over this bearing, i still feel that a KK deserves to be in this yoyo because the advantages totally weigh out the disadvantages.

When it comes to grinds, i was actually surprised how well it could handle them! The Double Joker can easily pull off a finger or a arm grind. And having an IRG groove, means this monster can also handle thumb grinds. But.....if you try to palm grind, your efforts will be in vain because the rims are one of the least ano'ed parts of the yoyo, thats is why they immediately fly off your palm. Recently there was a thread about competition grade yoyos not having like eg. IRG groove, good ano etc, i feel that it does not do justice to the Double Joker, being a new company at that time, YYJoker has really made a competition grade yet user-friendly yoyo.

Being a new company at that time, Daisuke Shimada has really made an impact on the entire community when he released this yoyo. solid throw, i strongly recommend this. With YYJoker releasing newer throws like the Strider and the Luminous, I can see why YYJoker is favorable among players. Well, I have come to the end of my review of the Double Joker, hope you liked it Smiley


UPADTE: NEW FLAW FOUND


Permanent damage from finger nail

As you can see from the picture above, there is a substantial amount of PERMANENT damage of damage from my FINGERNAIL.I have to reinforce this before I start I AM NOT HATING YYJOKER. I was doing a finger grind, when the yoyo suddenly came into contact with my finger nail for a good 5 seconds, when I bind it back, i was shocked to find a few circular white lines on the yoyo. I immediately used my shirt to try and wipe the white stuff off. Fortunately, most of the white stuff was gone except the pictured one which is permanent. I knew it was from my finger because when I looked at it, I could see purple residue. I am definitely not blaming myself for this, just take a CLYW, do exactly the same thing, not even a scratch! I am not hating YYJoker, but I definitely think that a yoyo manufactured of such quality should have a ano that can re stand a finger nail OR dont put a finish on it---take YYR for example they leave most of their yoyos raw because ano on that type of aluminium will leave scratches and other imperfections. I really think that YYjoker should improve on their finishing if not all their effort on making a good yoyo has pretty much gone to waste.
BTW if any of you have encountered this on a YYJoker please reply in the comment section.

-Norman
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Sunny
Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review by norman222
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 10:15:52 PM »

YYJ is good stuff, Luminous is an amazing yoyo too.  Looks super cool also.
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norman222
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review by norman222
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2011, 01:38:38 AM »

YYJ is good stuff, Luminous is an amazing yoyo too.  Looks super cool also.

Yeah i really hope too get a Luminous, the weight rims are so awesome Grin
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review!
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2011, 06:59:36 PM »

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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review!
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2011, 07:01:30 PM »

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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE NEW FLAW FOUND
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2011, 01:35:02 AM »

Important update ^^^^^^^^^^^^ please read.

If any of you even encountered the problem on a YoYoJoker please reply in this thread
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2011, 12:12:49 PM »

I had exactely the same problem with my double joker...  the anodisation leaves easily, personnaly I've polished mine!
Doublejoker is a great yoyo! ..... but yoyojoker cocytus is one of the best throws ever made!

(sorry for the bad english)
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2011, 05:08:26 PM »

I had exactely the same problem with my double joker...  the anodisation leaves easily, personnaly I've polished mine!
Doublejoker is a great yoyo! ..... but yoyojoker cocytus is one of the best throws ever made!

(sorry for the bad english)

Good to hear i am not the only one
, personnaly I've polished mine!

(sorry for the bad english

Polish as in Raw??
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2011, 05:10:52 PM »

This is common to all yoyos with basic anodization as the finish.
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2011, 11:44:27 PM »

There you go, da5id.
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2011, 04:16:21 PM »

I had exactely the same problem with my double joker...  the anodisation leaves easily, personnaly I've polished mine!
Doublejoker is a great yoyo! ..... but yoyojoker cocytus is one of the best throws ever made!

(sorry for the bad english)

Good to hear i am not the only one
, personnaly I've polished mine!

(sorry for the bad english

Polish as in Raw??

Yes
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2011, 08:51:25 AM »

I recently bought a YYJoker Uroboros and it is an AWESOME yoyo so awesome I bought a Strider sight unseen.  The Uroboros had the same issue when I was doing a thumb grind.  I just did it on the other side and now it looks normal.  No big issue to me as it does not affect play.  On another note the Strider did not do this so I think on the newer 2011 run maybe they fixed this.  The new axl system on the Strider Luminous and DJ LF is great it looks so cool and I really am impressed with it.  I would actually like some input from the nation if anyone knows exactly what they did to it.  Both Jokers are great though!!
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2012, 04:32:24 PM »

Not only did I encounter it on my yoyojoker, I did on my messiah and my clash(blasted). The 7075 aluminum Is denser and less conductive to electricity, Therefor creasting a thinner ano finish. The only company that I found did 7075 rite was yoyofactory  witth there hardcoat ano. 
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2012, 04:44:31 PM »

I've never encountered this problem on either of my Jokers (Cocytus and Stratos Mirage), but then again I don't do a lot of grinds, and almost never thumb grinds.  The only real problem I've ever encountered with the either is that the ink on the sidecaps will eventually scratch off from regular handling.  Hardly a major issue, but it's still annoying to have an otherwise mint yo-yo pick up flaws without any error on the part of the operator.
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2012, 01:00:19 PM »

My cocytus has the same problem; when i did an IRG, the my finger left this white mark on the finish.
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2012, 04:44:39 PM »

Make sure you're not grinding them in the cold or somewhere with a lot of moisture. I had the same thing happen to me on a Sleipnir when I was outside, but I had grinded the yoyo several times inside with no problems.
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Re: YoYoJoker Double Joker Review! UPADTE FLAW FOUND
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2012, 06:38:53 AM »

i have the DJ LF, got it around Nov last year and so far no vibe nor issues with the ano.
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