Yoyo vibe

[Sun5]

What is yoyo vibe? Can it really happen if you take your yoyo apart too much?

[sanbo]

Yoyo vibe is when the yoyo vibrates (you wil be able to tell). If the yoyo is "smooth" it should be perfectly symmetrical while spinning. Most of the time it won't be caused by taking apart your yoyo (it can happen though). Most of the time it's caused by a not centered axle or dings.

[Sun5]

What do you mean centered axle? should it be screwed in all the way on one side and then put the other half on or should it be on halfway ones side and half the other?(if that makes sense). I have a dv888

[sanbo]

What do you mean centered axle? should it be screwed in all the way on one side and then put the other half on or should it be on halfway ones side and half the other?(if that makes sense). I have a dv888

Yep. The axle should be halfway in both sides. However, the Dv888 the axle is stuck into one side (it's made to be this way) and yoyofactory has made it so that it's half in one side and half in the other, so you should be fine.

[Sun5]

ok thanks.

[ratfacedudeguy]

Yoyo vibe is when the yoyo vibrates (you wil be able to tell). If the yoyo is "smooth" it should be perfectly symmetrical while spinning. Most of the time it won't be caused by taking apart your yoyo (it can happen though). Most of the time it's caused by a not centered axle or dings.

That's not entirely true. A vibe occurs when the two halves of a yo-yo are not perfectly concentric with each other. What that means is that the center of each half would not be at the same point relative to each other if you have a vibey yo-yo, and it will feel like the yo-yo is buzzing or wobbling while it's spinning. The yo-yo's tolerance to handle these kinds of variances are present to an extent, but in everyday terms, a typical yo-yo's tolerance to eccentric halves is extremely small. So dings, if the impact that caused them was either powerful enough or the impact happens at such an angle to maximize the force, can warp the shape of the yo-yo and/or axle in such a way that the center point of each half will no longer be the same, which causes the vibe. This is why you can sometimes screw together two halves of two different yo-yos and they will still play smoothly.

The bit about the axle being perfectly centered is really what begs the most critique. It's actually more of a common misconception than it is true fact. Sure it can help to an extent to balance the weight on each side, but that's really not where "tuning the axle" really came to be. With a bit of searching on here, you will find a post from Frank Difeo explaining that axle tuning actually originated from old yo-yo designs in which the axle did not fit snugly into the threads inside the yo-yo. So loose rattling parts were what caused vibration in those cases. So really the original goal of tuning the axle was not to center it, but rather to position it in such a way that it would fit as snugly as possible in the threads. He said the best way to avoid vibe caused by the axle is to pull the halves away from each other while screwing them together on the axle. However, this only really applies to outdated axle systems, so it's basically obsolete in today's scene in which basically every quality yo-yo is made with snugly fitting axle-thread systems.

So at the end of the day, concentricity determines vibe, not balanced weight.

[darkwolfx58]

Yoyo vibe is when the yoyo vibrates (you wil be able to tell). If the yoyo is "smooth" it should be perfectly symmetrical while spinning. Most of the time it won't be caused by taking apart your yoyo (it can happen though). Most of the time it's caused by a not centered axle or dings.

That's not entirely true. A vibe occurs when the two halves of a yo-yo are not perfectly concentric with each other. What that means is that the center of each half would not be at the same point relative to each other if you have a vibey yo-yo, and it will feel like the yo-yo is buzzing or wobbling while it's spinning. The yo-yo's tolerance to handle these kinds of variances are present to an extent, but in everyday terms, a typical yo-yo's tolerance to eccentric halves is extremely small. So dings, if the impact that caused them was either powerful enough or the impact happens at such an angle to maximize the force, can warp the shape of the yo-yo and/or axle in such a way that the center point of each half will no longer be the same, which causes the vibe. This is why you can sometimes screw together two halves of two different yo-yos and they will still play smoothly.

The bit about the axle being perfectly centered is really what begs the most critique. It's actually more of a common misconception than it is true fact. Sure it can help to an extent to balance the weight on each side, but that's really not where "tuning the axle" really came to be. With a bit of searching on here, you will find a post from Frank Difeo explaining that axle tuning actually originated from old yo-yo designs in which the axle did not fit snugly into the threads inside the yo-yo. So loose rattling parts were what caused vibration in those cases. So really the original goal of tuning the axle was not to center it, but rather to position it in such a way that it would fit as snugly as possible in the threads. He said the best way to avoid vibe caused by the axle is to pull the halves away from each other while screwing them together on the axle. However, this only really applies to outdated axle systems, so it's basically obsolete in today's scene in which basically every quality yo-yo is made with snugly fitting axle-thread systems.

So at the end of the day, concentricity determines vibe, not balanced weight.

That was a extremely nice paragraph hand it tought me a lot too thanks i actually learned something today

[ratfacedudeguy]

Something I forgot to add was that if you do excessively screw and unscrew a yo-yo and the friction from the bearing rubs away at the bearing seat, it can loosen the seat post. Usually though, damage of this kind is caused more so by using improper and forceful methods of removing your bearing. That being said I highly recommend you consider using a method of removing the bearing that involves contact with the inner race of the bearing rather than the outside. In other words, use something like the YYF bearing removal tool, a drill bit of a similar diameter, or even the tail end of some ballpoint pens (the ones that get skinnier at the tail end, not the ones that are the same thickness all the way across) instead of using pliers. If the bearing doesn't sit snugly on the seat, it can cause a loose-parts rattle in much the same way as the loose fitting axle systems I mentioned. That should address the other part of your original question.

[Sun5]

Alright, it fits snug but on some throws it has a lot of vibe and on others its smooth as ice. why is that?

[oyoyoy]

^ If your yoyo is capable of being smooth *sometimes* then that means the vibe is caused by your throw.