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What does "floaty" mean?
« on: August 01, 2010, 03:30:05 AM »

I've been yo-young for around 12 years, and I own a great number of high end yo-yos in different shapes and sizes, but I still don't know what this word means when I see it.  What would be the most vs the least floaty yo-yo?  Sometimes when I read a review, it seems like all the descriptive words are either too ambiguous (e.g. "the response on this yo-yo is excellent") or too abstract, like they sound like a wine review.  Is there any standard guide for describing aspects of a yo-yo's moment of inertia / play characteristics?  Or any guide describing how yo-yo shape affects play.  Thanks.
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2010, 03:32:13 AM »

floaty means light and usally nimble on the end of the string. some do nbot like this felling due to stability issues(not oxy!)
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2010, 03:45:55 AM »

Floaty means to me that the yoyo usually hangs in the air for an extra split second if I pop it up. I look to the Hatrick as an example of floaty, and the BVM as an example of non-floaty.
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2010, 03:48:37 AM »

Floaty means to me that the yoyo usually hangs in the air for an extra split second if I pop it up. I look to the Hatrick as an example of floaty, and the BVM as an example of non-floaty.
This is what I've always gone by as well.

I prefer "Darty" yo-yos, I don't like my yo-yo hanging in the air for too long, when I want it to respond to my touch, I want it to move and do as I want, y'know? Floaty throws tend to not do that for me.
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2010, 04:17:10 AM »

I'd say that yoyo's that feel floaty are light on the string which does conjour up images of slow moving things like feathers. Contrary to this however, floaty yoyos like Skylines move like a chipmunk on a caffiene rush...
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2010, 04:20:39 AM »

I'd say that yoyo's that feel floaty are light on the string which does conjour up images of slow moving things like feathers. Contrary to this however, floaty yoyos like Skylines move like a chipmunk on a caffiene rush...
I dislike using "floaty" to describe that, personally. But that's me, and the fact of the matter is that "floaty" seems to have stuck.
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2010, 12:19:49 PM »

floaty = Werrd TFL.  Ever thrown one?
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2010, 08:30:57 PM »

I have a groovy lady TFL.  I have a broken xxxl as well.  They are fat-ish rim weighted yo-yos.  What is the relationship between floaty and rim weighted?  Does floaty just mean rim weighted, or is there also some relation to average distance of that weight to the center of the yo-yo?  For example, would a spyy pro compare to a hattrick on the floaty scale?
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2010, 08:44:45 PM »

i wouldn't really call a TFL heavily rim weighted. 

if anything, floaty yo-yos generally have a more spread out and evenly dispersed weight distribution.
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2010, 09:29:01 PM »

It is a subjective term.  When I say a yoyo feel floaty, I mean to say that it seems to feel lighter and slower on a throw the specs would imply.  the yo-yo seems to be more susceptible to manipulation during tricks and seems to be more affected by slight movements.  For example. If I do a popping trick with lots of little hops a floaty yo-yo may move around more than I intended it to.  It’s like picking up a milk carton that you think is full. 

Some people like a floaty yo-yo, some people prefer a more solid feel. 
I feel the Punchline and most older model Werrds are floaty.

You could have two 66gram yoyos with weight placed in different areas and have a floaty vs solid.  It has a lot to do with the weight placement. 

When I call a yo-yo solid, to me it feels like it is more resistant to my flubs and jitters.  The weight placement is fairly evenly distributed and the yo-yo seems to have a bigger presence on the string.  You can just kind of tell it is there more.  I prefer a solid feel more because it feels like I can push the yo-yo faster and harder than a floaty yo-yo.  Project, 888, and Bassline feel solid to me.

And then there is Clunky.  This is a yo-yo that feels like dead weight on the string. It feels hard to manipulate.  When you throw it pulls your hand as it slips to the end of your string.  I have found that many yoyos with a lot of rim weight and a response that stood alone in the response area felt clunky.  To me the C22 and c13, and sometimes the MVP but not always feel clunky.  Again, some peolpe like this.

Floaty should not be a negative trait, but is a highly subjective trait that speaks more towards the "personality" of a yo-yo and the impression that it gives that particular thrower.  In Reviews, it is the impression it gave to the reviewer.  Reviews are subjective by their very nature.  A lot of yoyos cross my desk, at least one new model a week, so when I say a yo-yo feels "This" or "That" it is just my impression and your millage may vary.
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2010, 09:36:30 PM »

Floaty means to me that the yoyo usually hangs in the air for an extra split second if I pop it up. I look to the Hatrick as an example of floaty, and the BVM as an example of non-floaty.
This is what I've always gone by as well.

I prefer "Darty" yo-yos, I don't like my yo-yo hanging in the air for too long, when I want it to respond to my touch, I want it to move and do as I want, y'know? Floaty throws tend to not do that for me.
as have I. Usually, very floaty yoyo's can slow down a lot when learning new tricks, like whips/hops. I tend to like whips and hops so I edge towards floaty yoyo's.
In other cases, darty yoyos are better for performances imo, because you don't really need to force them to "speed up"
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2010, 03:08:01 PM »

The opposite of 'Sinky'
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2010, 04:12:38 PM »

Floaty means to me that the yoyo usually hangs in the air for an extra split second if I pop it up. I look to the Hatrick as an example of floaty, and the BVM as an example of non-floaty.
This is what I've always gone by as well.

I prefer "Darty" yo-yos, I don't like my yo-yo hanging in the air for too long, when I want it to respond to my touch, I want it to move and do as I want, y'know? Floaty throws tend to not do that for me.
as have I. Usually, very floaty yoyo's can slow down a lot when learning new tricks, like whips/hops. I tend to like whips and hops so I edge towards floaty yoyo's.
In other cases, darty yoyos are better for performances imo, because you don't really need to force them to "speed up"
that is exactly what i thought
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2011, 02:03:47 PM »

Floaty means to me that the yoyo usually hangs in the air for an extra split second if I pop it up. I look to the Hatrick as an example of floaty, and the BVM as an example of non-floaty.

wait...
Quote from: wikipedia
The strength of the gravitational field is numerically equal to the acceleration of objects under its influence, and its value at the Earth's surface, denoted g, is approximately expressed below as the standard average.

g = 9.81 m/s2 = 32.2 ft/s2

This means that, ignoring air resistance, an object falling freely near the Earth's surface increases its velocity by 9.81 m/s (32.2 ft/s or 22 mph) for each second of its descent. Thus, an object starting from rest will attain a velocity of 9.81 m/s (32.2 ft/s) after one second, 19.6 m/s (64.4 ft/s) after two seconds, and so on, adding 9.81 m/s (32.2 ft/s) to each resulting velocity. Also, again ignoring air resistance, any and all objects, when dropped from the same height, will hit the ground at the same time.
in easier words, light or heavy yoyos will hang in the air in the exact same amount of time.
just saying
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 02:05:19 PM »

Why did you bring up a year old board?
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2011, 02:06:21 PM »

Floaty means to me that the yoyo usually hangs in the air for an extra split second if I pop it up. I look to the Hatrick as an example of floaty, and the BVM as an example of non-floaty.

wait...
Quote from: wikipedia
The strength of the gravitational field is numerically equal to the acceleration of objects under its influence, and its value at the Earth's surface, denoted g, is approximately expressed below as the standard average.

g = 9.81 m/s2 = 32.2 ft/s2

This means that, ignoring air resistance, an object falling freely near the Earth's surface increases its velocity by 9.81 m/s (32.2 ft/s or 22 mph) for each second of its descent. Thus, an object starting from rest will attain a velocity of 9.81 m/s (32.2 ft/s) after one second, 19.6 m/s (64.4 ft/s) after two seconds, and so on, adding 9.81 m/s (32.2 ft/s) to each resulting velocity. Also, again ignoring air resistance, any and all objects, when dropped from the same height, will hit the ground at the same time.
in easier words, light or heavy yoyos will hang in the air in the exact same amount of time.
just saying

Too bad we have air on Earth, eh?
And remember it's all very subjective.

Edit: Probably brought up due to my thread about the Skywalker.
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2011, 02:23:26 PM »

Why did you bring up a year old board?
eh? sorry I don't know, it just come up in my

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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2011, 02:56:01 PM »

'Floaty' is a cautionary term that warns you against playing 5A with the yoyo because you risk it floating away.
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2011, 03:17:05 PM »

'Floaty' is a cautionary term that warns you against listening to the person saying it.
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Re: What does "floaty" mean?
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2011, 03:28:58 PM »

I think it means this:   Grin

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