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mrneumann5000
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Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« on: March 14, 2010, 10:19:03 AM »

Okay, so I just got this 5 star in a trade and I love it, but it was pretty responsive. I took the bearing out and cleaned it (I know how to clean bearings correctly) while I was waiting I put a YYF bearing in it, and it was still kinda responsive, so then I finished cleaning the bearing, only to find out it was still kinda responsive! So the I got mad and removed one pad which made the binds slippy, but it was just as responsive!!! What should I do??? Is the bearing my problem? Thanks,
-Matt

Oh, PS, when I say responsive, I dont mean tug responsive like my bearings shot, just real snaggy and if you pull it fairly hard, with a few loops of string it will come up. I hate that.
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yoyospirit
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2010, 10:20:28 AM »

Silicone it.
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madcow
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2010, 05:10:27 PM »

The Usual Suspects :
1. Clean the bearing a few times. Sometimes once is just not enough.
2. Change to slippy-er pads. ( Difs , Chaz Pads ? ).
3. Switch to a KK, BC, or Center-Trac bearing.
4. Maybe the pads have to wear in ?

I've used Armour-All to make pads less grippy. Oil should work too. Be careful not to loosen the adhesive.

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mrneumann5000
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2010, 05:23:22 PM »

Okay, thanks, Ill try cleaning it again. Will 5 stars accept silicone?
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yoyospirit
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2010, 05:29:52 PM »

Yeah.
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DiscipleforChrist
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2010, 07:13:46 AM »

Like they said, you should try putting in something less responsive or just break it in a little more. The response system can cause the yo-yo to snap back if the string comes in contact with the sides on a hard tug, but this is normally if the response is new or not recessed.

On to the bearing, I had an AIGR in my  BvsM. I was in your same position, where I had that yo-yo play exactly like yours. I went through a long list of troubleshooting, even swapping out for new, albeit still finicky bearings. I ended up just buying a new bearing, because when I was looking at the guts of the AIGR, I noticed that the brace that held the ball bearings in place was loose, quite loose. I am not sure if this is normal, but it seemed like a plausible cause for the problem: the brace seeps down and hits the outer ring, slows it down, and causes resposiveness. This might be your problem. It may not be, as this proves a defective bearing.

Only Ernie or someone else more well-versed in General-Yo could clear this up for me, since I am not really sure how AIGR's are really supposed to work aside from the one I have owned. I am by no means here to bash General-Yo, I have heard so many positive things about their yo-yos and the bearing I owned did play fine for sporadic periods of time. When it did, it was like smooth butter on a piece of wintoast (ah, yeah, new terms here Cheesy)!

Hopefully I helped a little, I know what you are experiencing though. This problem really stinks as there is no obvious solution, really sorry to hear about your 5 Star. Hope it gets back up to playing standards soon.
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mrneumann5000
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2010, 07:23:05 AM »

I think I got it just by cleaning it again, It still isnt the most unresponsive throw ever, its not an 888, but it works and it works well. I love general-yo aswell, they make awesome throws. Thanks for the help,
-Matt
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fzzyrn
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2010, 11:51:27 AM »

check the bearing seat for silicone bits and stuff. make sure it's all clean. Snagginess is attributed to poor technique and fresh silicone. All in all, just play it.
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smolphry
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2010, 12:39:18 AM »

learn to play responsive?
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mrneumann5000
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2010, 09:26:43 AM »

I knwo how to play responsive, I just cant do alot of tricks without an unresponsive throw. I think its just my bearing, on a spin test on a pencil, it doesnt get spin times anywhere near any other bearing, Ill order a new one.
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gotquack
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2010, 09:36:25 AM »

The bearing may be deformed.
Happened to me a while ago.
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mrneumann5000
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2010, 09:38:52 AM »

Will any other bearings fit in a general-yo? Or is it just the AIGR? I have no probmem with AIGR at all, I just may have a speare bearing or two laying around.
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mrcnja
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2010, 12:24:06 PM »

It uses a C sized bearing. Thus, any C sized bearing will work.
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mrneumann5000
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Re: Sigh, another problem with responsiveness
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2010, 03:42:04 PM »

Cool, thanks for all the help guys.
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