..tired No Jive... VERY responsive!

[BIG NIC]

So I have an old No Jive that I've been throwing off and on for about a week now... and it is very responsive!

The piece of birch spins freely on the axle when I take the axle out of the yoyo halves.. I then put the axle back in 1 of the halves
and slid the birch wood part back on and it does NOT spin so freely

I have tried it in imperial, and butterfly... also I am using cotton string (...type 8 I think?!) but also tried some polyester highlights.. both with
1 loop and 2 loops around the birch... the only time it will sleep is sometimes when I use a single loop around the birch but I don't believe the
birch is actually spinning, it's most likely just the string spinning I think 

I NEED to hear the sweet hum of a wooden axle already!  Should I sand down some wood axle?   ..Any tips or suggestions on what I can do?

Thanks for reading my long post... any help wood be much appreciated!

[BosK]

err, this is slightly confusing and i don't want to patronise you..

The wood sleeve is fixed when the yoyo is tight... (its a fixed axle yoyo)
 so if you double loop the string it will obviously become more responsive because there's more string rubbing on the sleeve

[tyler3490]

its called a fixed axle because the axle is FIXED and doesnt spin, there is nothing wrong with your no jive, thats the way its supposed to play.

[BIG NIC]

err, this is slightly confusing and i don't want to patronise you..

The wood sleeve is fixed when the yoyo is tight... (its a fixed axle yoyo)
 so if you double loop the string it will obviously become more responsive because there's more string rubbing on the sleeve

ah... that makes sense! lol.. I'm just new to this "fixed axle" stuff... I was under the assumption that the birch wood sleeve was supposed to spin  

Thanks for your input guys 

[yoey]

I think you are getting your terms mixed up there a little bit. The wood sleeve spins on the axle. So the axle is fixed and does not spin, but the wood sleeve which you wrap your string around is covering the axle.

[BosK]

The axle/wood sleeve dosn't spin, its locked in place when you tighten it up

[morton.tony1]

I think you are getting your terms mixed up there a little bit. The wood sleeve spins on the axle. So the axle is fixed and does not spin, but the wood sleeve which you wrap your string around is covering the axle.

By that logic all yoyo are fixed axles. Replace wood sleeve with bearing, and you're describing most modern yoyos.

[Jacob Deffenbaugh]

The yo-yo spins.  The axle is not spinning at a different angular speed than the outside of the yo-yo.  The axle is always turning if the yo-yo is turning.

The hum you get when the yo-yo sleeps comes from the string ever-so-slightly gripping the axle, which is moving.

This makes the term "fixed axle" kinda funny.  The axle is spinning really, really fast during a sleeper (from the perspective of the practitioner).  It is only still when compared to the two yo-yo halves.

To the original poster, try a bit of Vaseline on the (cotton) string.  Not much, though.  It's easy to add more, but takes weeks to wear the extra off the axle if you over-apply.  More quiet, and less friction.

-Jacob

[ed]

I think you are getting your terms mixed up there a little bit. The wood sleeve spins on the axle. So the axle is fixed and does not spin, but the wood sleeve which you wrap your string around is covering the axle.

By that logic all yoyo are fixed axles. Replace wood sleeve with bearing, and you're describing most modern yoyos.

but in the case of the no jive, it's just misinformation. as bosk said, when the yo-yo is screwed together, friction keeps the axle from spinning relative to the yo-yo's halves. same with a proyo. same with a technic. all use wooden axle sleeves, but the sleeves DO NOT spin freely. the axle sleeves are only there because wood generally makes for a better-performing yo-yo axle than metal does.

[vegabomb]

but in the case of the no jive, it's just misinformation. as bosk said, when the yo-yo is screwed together, friction keeps the axle from spinning relative to the yo-yo's halves. same with a proyo. same with a technic. all use wooden axle sleeves, but the sleeves DO NOT spin freely. the axle sleeves are only there because wood generally makes for a better-performing yo-yo axle than metal does.

To the OP. This man speaks the truth. If you have any doubts go to youtube and search "haponik". Get inspired by what he does with the yoyo you speak of.
I know I do. Insane stuff.

[BIG NIC]

but in the case of the no jive, it's just misinformation. as bosk said, when the yo-yo is screwed together, friction keeps the axle from spinning relative to the yo-yo's halves. same with a proyo. same with a technic. all use wooden axle sleeves, but the sleeves DO NOT spin freely. the axle sleeves are only there because wood generally makes for a better-performing yo-yo axle than metal does.

To the OP. This man speaks the truth. If you have any doubts go to youtube and search "haponik". Get inspired by what he does with the yoyo you speak of.
I know I do. Insane stuff.

I know this.. Ed is the man, and one of few who inspired me to hunt down a No Jive...

I have finally got the thing gaped how I like and to be responsive just to my liking for the time being.

and since I have posted, I now carry my No Jive almost daily... and it's a great break from the ball bearing world of throws!