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Everything you need to start playing 5A
« on: May 09, 2009, 01:32:22 AM »

This should be the be-all, end all guide to everything you need to know about 5A.

If you notice any problems or questions that aren't addressed, let me know.

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Getting Started

Do I need to buy a special yoyo to play 5A?

Absolutely not. Any yoyo you like will play perfectly fine for 5A.


Where do I get a counterweight?

Most current 5A players use the plastic dice or foam rubber balls that Duncan makes. They are cheap and convenient. There are a few other options though. Recently people have been making homebrew counterweights, and would be more than happy to sell you one. Alternatively, you can make your own.

Duncan's counterweight pack is for sale at YoYoNation here:
http://www.yoyonation.com/product.php?productid=16792&cat=0&page=1


What if I want to make my own counterweight?
It's pretty easy to do. All you have to do is find a small object (A die, rubber ball, jaw breaker, etc) that you can drill a hole through the center of. Preferably something that isn't going to hurt if it hits you and doesn't have sharp edges. If you want to use a wad of old chewing gum with razer blades in it though, more power to you.

How much should a counterweight weigh?
Honestly, it's whatever you find comfortable. The red duncan die weighs ~6 grams, and that is what most people are used to.  Some people believe that the weight of the counterweight should be proportional to the weight of the yoyo,  but it's all personal preference. I think it's silly, because the Freehands come with a random assortment of dies, balls, and character heads. Not only do they all weigh different amounts, but even different colors of the dice have minute weight differences.

Just experiment and find what you like.

How do I get the counterweight on the string?

Take a piece of string, and your counterweight. (Note: You have to take the string off the yoyo to put the counterweight on and take it off). Take the yoyo end of the string, thread it through the hole in the CW, then thread it through the fingerloop. Tie the string on the yoyo, and you're ready to go.


Now you're ready to play

How do I hold this?
There are two main ways to hold and throw a 5A yoyo. I would recommend trying both and finding which is more comfortable.

1. Grasp the CW firmly with any combination of the middle, ring, and pinky fingers.

2. Grasp the string directly below the counterweight with the middle, ring, and pinky fingers. The die should be sticking outside your fist, against the pinky.

Regardless of which grip you choose, you should use your thumb and the side and base of your index finger to hold on to the yoyo.

How do I throw this?
The throw is almost the same as it is for 1A, except you're draping the string over the outer side of your index finger, both side style, and front style.

Great, now how do I catch this?
This gets a bit tricky for beginners, but keep at it and it won't be a problem.

You want to grasp the counterweight as before, and tug bind the yoyo normally. As it comes up, you want to try to pinch it with the thumb and index finger (and possibly the middle finger) as it lands on the base of your thumb.

It's incredibly awkward at first, but get used to it, and you'll be able to throw directly from a catch. Try your best not to get in a bad habit of adjusting the yoyo and CW with your other hand before each throw.


So now I can throw and catch the yoyo. What tricks can I do?


One of the best resources at your disposal is the World Yoyo Contest website. They have highly detailed text descriptions as well as videos for the basic 5A tricks.

The 2004 Compulsory tricklist is, in my opinion, a great place to start.

http://www.worldyoyocontest.com/2004worlds/cwrules.html

Once you have a few of those down, feel free to seek out tricks from other years, other tutorials, or your friends.


Great, now I have the basics, where do I go from here?

All that's left now is for you to learn more tricks, get more comfortable with the yoyo, and perhaps even make up a few new things.

We all get better by watching others, and the BEST way to find out what is new and interesting is to watch contest videos.

I've compiled a bunch here

http://vimeo.com/channels/freehand

...but I'll leave you with a few to get you inspired.

<a href="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=1642542&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=1642542&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA</a>


<a href="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=3361061&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=3361061&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA</a>


<a href="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=3361200&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=3361200&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA</a>


<a href="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=1894501&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=1894501&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA</a>




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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2009, 08:26:10 AM »

Great job, Box!
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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 08:51:32 AM »

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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2009, 09:08:41 AM »

even as an experienced 5a player i loved reading this!

good job!
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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2009, 09:12:23 AM »

THX a lot Box

god I need this (bookmarked)
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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2009, 09:53:44 AM »

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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2009, 09:56:08 AM »

can you stick this pat or any moderators this will be useful for beginners
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2009, 12:11:39 PM »

Brilliant post. Best single resource I've ever seen for 5A. Read and learn, kiddies.
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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2009, 12:18:53 PM »

Thanks for posting this. This is a great help for people who want to learn. I kinda wish this was posted before I started learning 5a.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2009, 12:30:29 PM »

This will be stickied once the posts did down. While there are still posts, more people will read this in the message list than as a sticky.
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2009, 09:05:01 PM »

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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2009, 09:25:32 PM »

Great resource. I feel being a yoyoer in Delaware, I am expected to throw 5a. Hopefully this will prevent me from making a complete fool out of myself.
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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2009, 03:17:30 PM »

Apparently needs a sticky already.
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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2009, 09:20:09 PM »

Excellent post!  I started throwing 5a today and this helped me start on the rite track. Thanks a bunch.
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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2009, 08:13:15 AM »

can a Legacy play 5A? cos i keep dropping mine....i keep having this phobia of tons and tons od dings, scratches, and my yoyo cracking open.  Undecided
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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2009, 03:07:44 PM »

Legacy is a good 5A yoyo I use it regularly its a little heavy but thats part of it strength.
Honestly the truth is that 5A = a dinged up yoyo. Try practicing on carpet or grass but there is no avoiding it. The lyn fury is a good 5A for cheap if you want something that you are not afraid to ding up. Afro
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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2009, 03:46:49 PM »

Or use a yo-yo that's already fubar. Likelihood is if you started playing unresponsive fairly early on you do.
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Re: Everything you need to start playing 5A
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2009, 07:20:27 PM »

And another thing.
According to Steve Brown (The Inventor of Freehand Yo-yo) That If what is the weight of your yo-yo (Officially), 1/7 of the weight of the yo-yo, the "1/7th" that is the weight of your counterweight.

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