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BGskills
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(NYT) nickel your throw UPDATE : peak , Torrent , campfire , project , marmot ++
« on: October 02, 2011, 04:49:24 PM »

NEW update NYT ( nickel your throw ) I'm taking orders worldwide : please get in touch for quotes each job will be different : Best yoyo for outstanding result are Raw yoyos , the finish is like no other finish on the current market. durable resistance and tarnishes differently to other nickel yoyos .

prices and shipping will be discussed when you get in touch...many throws nickel plated please check B/S/T for some exclusive BG nickel edition yoyos available to you and very rare and usually 1/1 or 1/2 as these will be my personal yoyos examples available later on. ( this is usually nickel outer body and inner cup will be of a metallic custom colour )

current method is electroplated nickel , also available is Matt nickel which is very unique , in the future i will be able to provide electroless plating ( however the nickel on the current method is more unique shiny & amazing ) its just harder to do. check pictures. old to new ( the super shiny torrent and peak were plated on raw polished yoyos )

Alternative contact : Ghahremani1@hotmail.co.uk

















thanks for looking
kind regards
Ben
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2011, 04:59:04 PM »

Looks fun.  And that seems pretty cheap for a nickle plate.
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2011, 05:09:50 PM »

I posted this in a similar topic a while ago, and I think it is good advice for someone starting a nickel plating service

If you do decide to start nickel plating, keep this in mind:  Some yoyos have special nickel plated limited editions (most one drops, Sky walker, battosai, etc.) and if you allow people to have normal versions of these yoyos nickel plated, it could hurt the collector value, and some people (including myself) would not be happy.

I would suggest only offering Nickel plating for yoyos that do not already have nickel plated limited editions.  I believe that forum members who do custom anodizing also follow this same guideline.
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2011, 06:10:11 PM »

Yes thank you I am very much aware of this. saying this  I also like to state that this is a finish that is a preference of the customer. Eventually all types and finishes and additions will be available from most makers. I’m aware of this issue and if i see that it is becoming a problem I will not consider jobs. As I am a collector and I think that throwers should have this option which is out there … and the nickel plate and finish that I provide will differ to the ones that say one drop and other manufactures use ! and collectors will be able recognise the difference all the yoyos I nickel plate are aque blasted this makes me able to achieve a different nickel finish  i also offer a matt nickel plate which is not on any addition of yoyos that have come out.

Thanks

Ben
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Re: Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2011, 07:25:06 PM »

That is sick. I will pm you when I get home. Curious, what kind of shipping do you provide? And what if the yoyo has dings? Also, is it possible to blast it in a way that does not take away the shine of nickel while allowing a grinding finish? Similar to the sodablasted nickel finish OD uses?
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2011, 03:34:16 AM »

Hi,

Thank you for the interest this is a sensitive subject for most, referring to the msg that superpokenerd sent concerning the exclusivity of the edition released by say OD and other manufactures. I’m not here trying to imitate the finishes that they do!! So due to that respect I cannot and am not willing to provide this finish in nickel plating that OD do. I hope you will understand.

and as for the dings. it will cover to a certain level but as i said its a micro plating and will not fill in the dings and scratches just makes it look less noticable if they are small dings ect ...

hope this helps

If you’re still interested please pm me and I will provide you with shipping information
Many thanks

regards
Ben
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2011, 10:06:08 AM »

I posted this in a similar topic a while ago, and I think it is good advice for someone starting a nickel plating service

If you do decide to start nickel plating, keep this in mind:  Some yoyos have special nickel plated limited editions (most one drops, Sky walker, battosai, etc.) and if you allow people to have normal versions of these yoyos nickel plated, it could hurt the collector value, and some people (including myself) would not be happy.

I would suggest only offering Nickel plating for yoyos that do not already have nickel plated limited editions.  I believe that forum members who do custom anodizing also follow this same guideline.

Just no, sorry. You don't get to dictate what the rest of us can have access to. I am personally offended that you would even post such a thing, it's not as if nickel plated yoyo's are hard to come by, they are a dime a dozen in this day and age.
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2011, 11:13:24 AM »

I posted this in a similar topic a while ago, and I think it is good advice for someone starting a nickel plating service

If you do decide to start nickel plating, keep this in mind:  Some yoyos have special nickel plated limited editions (most one drops, Sky walker, battosai, etc.) and if you allow people to have normal versions of these yoyos nickel plated, it could hurt the collector value, and some people (including myself) would not be happy.

I would suggest only offering Nickel plating for yoyos that do not already have nickel plated limited editions.  I believe that forum members who do custom anodizing also follow this same guideline.

Just no, sorry. You don't get to dictate what the rest of us can have access to. I am personally offended that you would even post such as thing, it's not as if nickel plated yoyo's are hard to come by, they are a dime a dozen in this day and age.

Thanks Cakefist well said.
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2011, 11:57:44 AM »

Many Thanks for the support guys . All I have left to say is that: the nation speaks for itself Smiley

Kind regards 

Ben
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Re: Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2011, 12:09:03 PM »

Yeah, not asking for sodablast, but maybe there is a less agressive blast than the aquablast? Because I can barely see the nickel with that blast. Maybe sometbing similar to the od sodablast, but different enough to easily seperate them?
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Re: Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2011, 01:12:36 PM »

Yeah, not asking for sodablast, but maybe there is a less agressive blast than the aquablast? Because I can barely see the nickel with that blast. Maybe sometbing similar to the od sodablast, but different enough to easily seperate them?

Hi,

I haven’t got access to a soda blast as of yet! However the matt finish is still very much nickel and a very nice finish. i will look into the different blasting techniques but it’s usually a trial and error procedure and once I am satisfied that I have found  a good blasting procedure that works well and gives a good enough finish I will add this to my services , but for the time being I have only the two options

Maybe the sample pictures had a little too much shadow due to the ambient light from the window I have added another picture. Maybe this will be a little clearer showing the finish (top image with flash bottom without )

Thanks
Regards
Ben


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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2011, 02:10:40 PM »

I posted this in a similar topic a while ago, and I think it is good advice for someone starting a nickel plating service

If you do decide to start nickel plating, keep this in mind:  Some yoyos have special nickel plated limited editions (most one drops, Sky walker, battosai, etc.) and if you allow people to have normal versions of these yoyos nickel plated, it could hurt the collector value, and some people (including myself) would not be happy.

I would suggest only offering Nickel plating for yoyos that do not already have nickel plated limited editions.  I believe that forum members who do custom anodizing also follow this same guideline.

Not trying to disagree with you here, but I wouldn't like to be declined having a yoyo nickel plated just because there is an official nickel plated edition out there. But I wouldn't then go out and sell it pretending it's the "real" thing. At the end of the day it is going to cost someone £19 extra on top of the yoyo they bought. All that means is people can end up paying the same amount as they would on the b/s/t for an "official" one, except now they don't have to spend their money with someone who wants a quick buck because nickel is sought after.

Oh yeah, and most importantly, this service looks ace, being in the UK I will be nickelling up quite soon Cheesy
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2011, 05:35:52 PM »

I posted this in a similar topic a while ago, and I think it is good advice for someone starting a nickel plating service

If you do decide to start nickel plating, keep this in mind:  Some yoyos have special nickel plated limited editions (most one drops, Sky walker, battosai, etc.) and if you allow people to have normal versions of these yoyos nickel plated, it could hurt the collector value, and some people (including myself) would not be happy.

I would suggest only offering Nickel plating for yoyos that do not already have nickel plated limited editions.  I believe that forum members who do custom anodizing also follow this same guideline.

Just no, sorry. You don't get to dictate what the rest of us can have access to. I am personally offended that you would even post such a thing, it's not as if nickel plated yoyo's are hard to come by, they are a dime a dozen in this day and age.

Evidently you're not comprehending the point.  Nickel plating a yoyo that has a nickel plated special edtion lowers the rarity of that particular variety of that yoyo, even if one nickel plated version is official and one isn't; they'll be indistinguishable.  It's the same principle as forgery (intentional or not) and diminishes collectors value.  I'm sure most every collector out there would agree me.  And in fact, some nickel plated yoyos are extremely hard to some by, such as the nickel plated sky walker. I would be very mad if someone got a sky walker nickel plated by this service because then the rarity of mine is diminished.  I'm not sure how my remark offends you, it's just common sense for a collector's item.  Also as I said, anodizing services obey that same rule so there's no reason why a nickel plating service should be any different.
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2011, 05:54:13 PM »

If you're collecting these yoyos to keep, why worry about what they're worth to others?

And if the only people against nickel plating a yoyo that already has a nickel edition are those who only collect "originals" then who exactly is going to boycott such a service? What incentive is there for someone running such a service to refuse to plate some yoyos but not others (unless they are contracted by a company)? No yoyo company can bring a legal argument because they made the product being plated, it doesn't change what it is, it's the same thing in a different skin.

Not to mention I've seen a number of onedrop releases keep the nickel plated version at roughly the same price as the anodised version, the inflated price occurs at resale, so a plating service cannot damage a yoyo company's business.
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2011, 06:03:12 PM »

I posted this in a similar topic a while ago, and I think it is good advice for someone starting a nickel plating service

If you do decide to start nickel plating, keep this in mind:  Some yoyos have special nickel plated limited editions (most one drops, Sky walker, battosai, etc.) and if you allow people to have normal versions of these yoyos nickel plated, it could hurt the collector value, and some people (including myself) would not be happy.

I would suggest only offering Nickel plating for yoyos that do not already have nickel plated limited editions.  I believe that forum members who do custom anodizing also follow this same guideline.

Just no, sorry. You don't get to dictate what the rest of us can have access to. I am personally offended that you would even post such a thing, it's not as if nickel plated yoyo's are hard to come by, they are a dime a dozen in this day and age.

Evidently you're not comprehending the point.  Nickel plating a yoyo that has a nickel plated special edtion lowers the rarity of that particular variety of that yoyo, even if one nickel plated version is official and one isn't; they'll be indistinguishable.  It's the same principle as forgery (intentional or not) and diminishes collectors value.  I'm sure most every collector out there would agree me.  And in fact, some nickel plated yoyos are extremely hard to some by, such as the nickel plated sky walker. I would be very mad if someone got a sky walker nickel plated by this service because then the rarity of mine is diminished.  I'm not sure how my remark offends you, it's just common sense for a collector's item.  Also as I said, anodizing services obey that same rule so there's no reason why a nickel plating service should be any different.

Allow me to quote myself "Just no, sorry. You don't get to dictate what the rest of us can have access to. I am personally offended that you would even post such a thing, it's not as if nickel plated yoyo's are hard to come by, they are a dime a dozen in this day and age"   Just in case you didn't get it the first time, you have no valid justification for your selfish remarks, it's trash, jog on sir. 
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2011, 06:17:38 PM »

It's really just not cool to collectors.  It's not about contracting with a company or anything like that. It's about respect.  Sure, to you, it may not matter, because SuperPokenerd is just going to keep the yo-yo, but to collectors, it makes the piece they have less special, and ruins its rarity and personal value.

It's like if Jason Wong went and started anodizing Sky Walkers in the WYYC exclusive colorway.  People who paid a lot, or worked hard for a long time to get a World's Sky Walker would feel like crap.
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2011, 06:22:18 PM »

I posted this in a similar topic a while ago, and I think it is good advice for someone starting a nickel plating service

If you do decide to start nickel plating, keep this in mind:  Some yoyos have special nickel plated limited editions (most one drops, Sky walker, battosai, etc.) and if you allow people to have normal versions of these yoyos nickel plated, it could hurt the collector value, and some people (including myself) would not be happy.

I would suggest only offering Nickel plating for yoyos that do not already have nickel plated limited editions.  I believe that forum members who do custom anodizing also follow this same guideline.

Just no, sorry. You don't get to dictate what the rest of us can have access to. I am personally offended that you would even post such a thing, it's not as if nickel plated yoyo's are hard to come by, they are a dime a dozen in this day and age.

Evidently you're not comprehending the point.  Nickel plating a yoyo that has a nickel plated special edtion lowers the rarity of that particular variety of that yoyo, even if one nickel plated version is official and one isn't; they'll be indistinguishable.  It's the same principle as forgery (intentional or not) and diminishes collectors value.  I'm sure most every collector out there would agree me.  And in fact, some nickel plated yoyos are extremely hard to some by, such as the nickel plated sky walker. I would be very mad if someone got a sky walker nickel plated by this service because then the rarity of mine is diminished.  I'm not sure how my remark offends you, it's just common sense for a collector's item.  Also as I said, anodizing services obey that same rule so there's no reason why a nickel plating service should be any different.

Allow me to quote myself "Just no, sorry. You don't get to dictate what the rest of us can have access to. I am personally offended that you would even post such a thing, it's not as if nickel plated yoyo's are hard to come by, they are a dime a dozen in this day and age"   Just in case you didn't get it the first time, you have no valid justification for your selfish remarks, it's trash, jog on sir. 
I don't understand the hostility.


This situation is very similar to when Brett Grimes painted the "OG" Peak replica. He asked Levi and Chris for permission before he even attempted it out of respect.

It think OP should ask permission to nickel certain throws.
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2011, 06:23:30 PM »

It's really just not cool to collectors.  It's not about contracting with a company or anything like that. It's about respect.  Sure, to you, it may not matter, because SuperPokenerd is just going to keep the yo-yo, but to collectors, it makes the piece they have less special, and ruins its rarity and personal value.

It's like if Jason Wong went and started anodizing Sky Walkers in the WYYC exclusive colorway.  People who paid a lot, or worked hard for a long time to get a World's Sky Walker would feel like crap.
Exactly, the argument lies in the collector's value, and the justification is rock solid.  Thanks for actually understanding my point.

As another example, say I started a business where I didn't adhere to my suggested guideline.  Then I could just go ahead and reproduce any colorway of any yoyo.  For example, I could make as many OG peaks, nickel sky walkers, Bip Bop avalanches, Team Edition BvMs, etc. as I wanted.  THIS KILLS THE COLLECTOR'S VALUE!  If a throw is made more readily available, it becomes less sought after, less rare, and less valuable.  This shouldn't be allowed to happen to yoyos that collector's have worked hard to acquire. 

Even if the blasting finish is different, it's still a Nickel _____ and so there's one more Nickel _____ and so Nickel _____s are less rare, and so on.
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2011, 06:41:13 PM »

I understand the principle, but if someone missed out on a nickel skywalker and had the money to ship it over seas and get it plated, I don't see the problem.

Its not like were going to see 100 MIB nickel sky walkers show up.  If we do, then your right, it is unfair to collectors.
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Re: NICKEL YOUR THROW !!! intrested in nickel thorws ??
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2011, 06:43:10 PM »

I understand the principle, but if someone missed out on a nickel skywalker and had the money to ship it over seas and get it plated, I don't see the problem.

Its not like were going to see 100 MIB nickel sky walkers show up.  If we do, then your right, it is unfair to collectors.
Even one unofficial one is too many.  No matter how small the amount, it still makes a difference.

Here's a quote from JasonWongZero which helps illustrate my point:
Yup, I think it's good yoyo citizenship to not recreate limited edition yoyos precisely to preserve collector value.   It's just respectful to both the collectors and to the companies.

I also think it's good practice to not copy colorways or at least attribute them to their inventors when possible.


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